{"id":6440,"date":"2019-02-26T12:54:50","date_gmt":"2019-02-26T20:54:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.realhd-audio.com\/?p=6440"},"modified":"2019-02-26T13:08:04","modified_gmt":"2019-02-26T21:08:04","slug":"cables-cables-and-more","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.realhd-audio.com\/?p=6440","title":{"rendered":"Cables, Cables and More!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

You want to guarantee lots of clicks or comments on your blog, audio site, or FB page? Write about cables. My last piece on the nonsense of power cables prompted a lot of responses and apparently inspired some other writers and group managers to take up the topic. Steven Stone wrote a piece over at Audiophile Review titled, “Can Power Cords Have an Effect on an Audio System’s Sound?<\/a>” yesterday where he asked a couple of audio authorities to weigh in on the topic. David Salz, the founder and a principal of WireWorld, wrote a long explanation full of techno jargon in full support of power cords causing “great improvements in music reproduction”. Not surprising as his company sells power cords costing upwards of $1700. I’ve meet David, experienced his demos where “dramatic improvements” were promised, and left unimpressed. The counter argument was left to Tommy O’Brien of The Digital Amplifier Company. His assessment? “If people think beefing up the last 10% of 60 foot run is going to make a difference, they will be sadly mistaken”.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The FluxField Technology employed by WireWorld in their power cords.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Others with “years of listening experience” respond to my ardent skepticism with the usual push back: “If you can’t hear differences between power cords, then be glad because you’re saving a lot of money” or “Your system isn’t good enough \u2014 it doesn’t resolve with sufficient clarity \u2014 to allow you to detect the very real differences”. When I point out that I’ve been mixing and mastering award-winning, high-end music for 40 years and that my professional studio includes Meridian, Bryston, and B&W equipment, the exchanges usually cease. But engineering and scientific facts rarely change anyone’s opinions on cables.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The typical signal path of AC power to your equipment.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

I know a few of the people running the cable companies. Ray Kimber is a friend and Greg at DH Labs has generously provided interconnects and speaker cables for my demos at AXPONA. These companies have succeeded because audiophiles believe what they read, they believe the advertising, they believe the reviewers, and they take subjective opinions as scientific facts. It’s unfortunate but is unlikely to stop anytime soon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A Real Expert Offers His Insight<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

I received a lengthy private email from a real expert \u2014 a bona fide electrical engineer who designs and evaluates cables for a living \u2014 that I have shared below. I hope that those stuck in the fog of cable nonsense will read it and start the process back to critical and objective reality. It’s unlikely that anyone will change their mind, but at least those writing on the topic will have another \u2014 this time unbiased \u2014 source to quote.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Hello Dr. Waldrep,
I’d like to thank you for maintaining this site and being the voice of reason in this time of great misinformation. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I am a professional electronics engineer;  my day today work involves figuring out signal integrity for fast digital interfaces on and between printed circuit boards; many of these operating well into multi-gigahertz regime. That’s a good 4-5 orders of magnitudes higher bandwidth than anything encountered in audio applications.  And often that’s done over…you guess it…copper cables.  At those frequencies just about anything looks like a distributed transmission line.  And more importantly so much energy is lost in the cables to the point that waveform through the cable barely resemble the waveform presented to the cable \u2014 and yet if managed properly, which is what my job encompasses, these digital interfaces work flawlessly! <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

But let’s return back to audio band. I recently bought a pair of 6 foot RCA cables between my USB-based 24\/192K DAC driving a set of my home studio near field monitors, to replace a shorter pair I had used prior. After reading numerous online reviews, I selected a pair of $11 reasonably well-made 75 ohm stranded center conductor coaxial cables on Amazon.  That’s $13 a pair. Not $1100.  Not even $110.  How could I commit such a  heresy? In my view, pretty simple. <\/em>
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At audio frequencies a 6 ft analog interconnect still acts like a wire. It is not a distributed transmission line. I don’t have to think of reflections. A wavelength of say 100 kHz sine in a 80% velocity cable (pretty typical of modern 75ohm coaxial cables, e.g. Belden 8241F) is 3.7 kilometers. Even a 1000ft cable can’t possibly act like a transmission line, even as we talk ultrasonic. So manufacturers tagging audio cables as some kind of superior transmission line cables should check their facts – unless you are planning to run your analog audio straight across the country!<\/em>
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That means my cable is a wire that can be simply modeled as lumped series resistance, series inductance and shunt capacitance per unit length. With that, the physics of this is easy to analyze with standard circuits theory in the context of my set up.  According to the manual for my DAC and monitors, the output and input impedance (resistance) is 25ohms and 10 kOhms, respectively.  0.25% of the signal is lost no matter what. Not a huge loss – in fact I highly doubt the golden eared could catch something so minor.<\/em>
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Series resistance of a cable is a DC (as in zero Hertz) and represents the net amplitude loss – in this case voltage division between output impedance and cable + input impedance. For (eg. Belden 8241F) the series resistance is 105.6mOhm\/6ft.  Against 10K load resistance this series resistance is completely negligible – in other words 10000 ohm + 0.106 = 10000.106ohm is for all practical purposes still the same 10000 ohm (in fact component tolerances in the input circuit of my monitor will most certainly exceed that level of precision). That eliminates me from needing some kind of ultra-low resistive esoterically constructed super-conducting metals  or some such.
Next I look at the series inductance. For Belden 8241F is is rated at 0.54uH\/6ft. That’s likely measured at (almost canonically accepted) frequency of 1MHz. This brings up the question of skin effect. At 100KHz one skin depth in copper is approximately 0.2mm. The cable we’ve been looking at so far has a 30 AWG center conductor that has a radius of 0.12mm. That means even at ultrasonic frequencies the current does not redistribute itself too much within the center conductor. (The shield is braided and that means skin effect is even less pronounced there due to a multitude of small-diameter conductors that construct this braid). The inductance, then, (as well as AC resistance) varies no more than 1-2% over entire audio band. So the series inductance for this cable of 0.54uH\/6ft translates to a whopping extra 0.339ohm of series reactance introduced by the cable, and that’s at 1MHz. I’d say that’s just as negligible against 10000 ohms just as is the series resistance. <\/em>So there goes the line of manufacturers claiming that their cables improve sound because of reduction of skin effect.<\/em><\/strong> It’s pretty humorous to consider the readings with claims about improvements due to gold platings and so on. (By the way, the cable I purchases is a stranded conductor which makes it even more tolerant of skin effect loss). <\/em>
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Finally the shunt capacitance. Our coax cable is specified with capacitance of 103pF\/6ft. At 100KHz that’s a reactance of 15452 Ohms. That’s noticeable against my 10K input load, but since I am source by 25ohm output the net effect is only additional 0.16% of signal loss up there! (1) I am pretty sure I can’t hear 0.16% signal drop and (2) I am pretty sure I can’t hear much at 100 kHz anyway. Situation only improves in my favor when I lower my requirements to the frequencies I can hear.<\/em>
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What about dielectric loss? Once again at audio frequencies the conductivity for typical coaxial cable dielectrics is still in the megaohms. 
What about claims of improved RF shielding? RF signals could be picked up by the cable as a receiving antenna? However in just about any coaxial cable skin depth of the outer conductor\/braid is much thicker than that of the high frequency RF signal and cannot penetrate down to the center conductor. These high frequency currents could instead flow along the outer conductor to the input.  The amount of this pickup is function of length of this antenna and the RF frequency in question. And it has to do with how the input mixes the RF signal down to an audible band. But it has nothing to do with how many layers are found in the outer conductor or whether some exotic metal is used as opposed to copper.<\/em>
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That’s it then. My conclusion is, as long as electrical characteristics of my purchase are on par with “inexpensive and commonly used standard cable akin to those that have been around for decades” then anything else doesn’t buy me any benefit. <\/em>
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The wheel has been fully invented. Fortunately the science of copper interconnects has been pretty much 100% understood all the way from DC to tens of gigahertz (where if not the case, I would have tremendous trouble designing my fast digital interfaces). <\/em>Rather than misleading potential buyers with useless and confusing specs, audio cable manufacturers need only to publish the 3 parameters that are of most interest. But none of them do!<\/em><\/strong>
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By the way, I replaced my exiting cables with my new purchase. Had I not replaced them myself, I don’t think I would have ever noticed the swap. It was a negligible-loss operation (both acoustically and financially).<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

My profound thanks for the author sharing his years of expertise and explaining in factual, objective terms how audio cables work. It would be wise for writers, audiophiles, and designer cable companies to understand the basics before contributing to the debate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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My brother Lee and his beautiful family.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

My younger brother is in need of some help. This isn’t the place or platform to relate the details of his current situation but I know some of you might consider making a contribution to the GoFundMe campaign I started for him once you read the narrative I authored. In fact, since I posted this a week ago, many readers have given generously…thank you!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I wouldn’t make this appeal if I didn’t feel his circumstance was compelling and the person worthy. If you want to read more, please click the link below and consider making a contribution.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

To thank anyone that makes a donation of $100 or more, I will send a signed copy of my “Music and Audio: A User Guide to Better Sound” (with Blu-ray Demo disc) AND a FREE copy of the latest AIX Records sampler\u2014 a $25 value. If you contribute $50 – $100, I’ll send the eBook, downloadable files, and the AIX sampler. Finally, for a donation of $25 – $50, you’ll receive the eBook and demo files.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I will cover all shipping expenses for domestic orders. International shipping will be additional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Click here to be taken to the GoFundMe page.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Please do not share this link. Thanks for your consideration. And thanks to those that have generously contributed to the GoFundMe campaign!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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